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| [Praise] Thank you AMD!
For
the last 2 and a half years I have had to endure so many computer
hardware problems that I have lost track of them much like I have
forgotten the women in my past :o :o :o . Over the course of it all, I
have slowly diagnosed and solved problems successfully, however, with
the near latest iteration things kept giving me trouble.
Without
telling the long story, suffice it to say that I came to the conclusion
that my CPU might be "flaky". Now I had people tell me that that is a
crazy idea, that CPUs either just work or don't work, but when I went
over the long list of changed out hardware, and how the memory I am
using worked so well with the previous CPU, it all seemed to add up to
the CPU being, well gee, flaky, how else to describe it?
I put
off dealing with it and kept tolerating the BSODs, the Crash to reboot,
and lockups with the resignation that I might never solve the problem.
At first I thought that maybe ceasing to overclock might do the trick.
It helped, but it didn't solve the problem completely, in fact, far
from it.
Christmas was coming and my trip home/vacation was
imminent, so I decided to bite the bullet and gather the will to call
AMD and attempt to talk them into checking the CPU. I had great
trepadations that they wouldn't be very willing and that I'd likely end
up having to spend a lot of money, but to my surprise:
The CSR
was quite nice, and helpful no less. He told me to only send the
processor, not the retail package. He first simply asked me for my
serial number and model number from the box. Once he knew it was a
retail box he explained that I must NOT send in the box or heatsink,
but I asked him how to ship the CPU then, and we decided that I'd use
the little plastic window/holder and the foam for it, and put it in an
hard drive anti static bag and then wrap it with bubble wrap. I also
double boxed it.
He told me that they would prepay the shipping
both ways and all I needed to do was read the instructions in the email
and print out the shipping lable and information before tearing my
system down.
I told him it would be a week before I could send it and he said no worries.
However,
later that day I got a message saying my time was running out for the
RMA. I called and they told me that their network/software had some
strange glitch that day and that they would have to reset it. They were
apologetic.
So before I left for home and the holidays, I
dropped it off at the DHL collection place (a small inconvenience,
but...) and went off on my vacation.
I had a feeling that their
software issue might not be resolved after a few days so I called them
to make certain that they hadn't cancled my RMA since I had shipped it,
and sure enough, it had done it again. They apologized and assured me
that it would be processed ASAP.
Well, not only did they do so,
but the day after they got it they approved it and shipped the next
day!!! Sadly, it took DHL 10 days counting a weekend and Christmas/New
Year's day to handle a second day delivery.
But I got a
completely brand new, sealed in box, fresh retail of the same thing. I
had hoped for an Opteron in replacement for my Toledo 4800 as they said
I'd get the next best thing if they had run out of mine. But still, a
brand new CPU for a 1.3 year old CPU? GREAT!
Not only did it now
seem certain that, indeed, I was right, that the old CPU WAS flaky, the
new one is working as good as or nearly as good as an Opteron 180! I am
currently running Orthos with it at 3 GHz up from the stock of 2.4. For
a 4800 that is really good!
AMD was courteous, generous, and prompt. They treated me very well.
Thank
you AMD, now not only can I have a stable system at stock, but I can
overclock like crazy! This is comforting to me knowing that most guys
by now have nice new Intel Q6600s that they are running over 3.6GHz, so
at least I am not so far behind as I was...
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| You
just got your brand new CPU after messing up the old one, and you've
already started overclocking it? That's very... interesting. |
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said by removed  :You
just got your brand new CPU after messing up the old one, and you've
already started overclocking it? That's very... interesting. And he's doing it on your dime. |
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Yeah, if you overclock RMAs shouldn't be granted :huh:.
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You realize overclocking isn't an assured way to kill your CPU, right?
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| It
may not be an assured way to do it, but it's definitely one of the top
ways to kill your CPU. I suspect that the OP is going to once again run
into issues a few months from now, and AMD customers will be left to
pick up the price tag of his next RMA. :uhh: |
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| said by removed :It
may not be an assured way to do it, but it's definitely one of the top
ways to kill your CPU. I suspect that the OP is going to once again run
into issues a few months from now, and AMD customers will be left to
pick up the price tag of his next RMA. :uhh: True. |
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January 5th, @08:19PM
| reply to signmeuptoo
The
CPU was run stock for 6 months and my system was flaky with it. Once
again, removed is just harassing me, which he likes to do.
It is too bad that even when a guy posts something uplifting and positive, a site member who only harasses can get away with it.
It
would be one thing had I bought a good, stable, solid CPU and then gone
and truly abused it by only using stock cooling, over volting a lot,
and packing in a hot closed case. Instead, I ran stock for months and
system was unstable and did BSODs, Crash to reboots, and lockups. I
changed out all my parts one by one and also then increased my CPU
voltage by only 1 step or two, just a tiny bit because I have read it
would help.
Instead of being the kind of guy who DOES rip off
the community by costing others, I was afraid to bother AMD with it,
but common sense got the better of me when I realized I was not to
blame and it was my right to have a $300+ part work properly. That a
guy who gets off on harassing people comes in here and tries to distort
the truth, don't listen to it guys!
I went through a LOT of
trouble to prevent the CPU from failing. I spent over $90 on a cooling
solution to keep it cooler because of my hot room. I used a fully
mirror lapped Thermalright XP-120 with a high end Panaflo fan AND
Coollaboratories Liquid Pro Liquid Metal thermal compound, all of those
were the best you could get when I bought them!!!
Abuse of a CPU
happens from overheating it, and furthermore, CPUs today are designed
to throttle back/shut down, if they overheat. I got NOWHERE near this,
EVER.
I am a good and considerate guy and I would never try and
cost others for my own stupidity. Just ignore removed, he has never
posted anything but harassment as regards to me, its his only
contribution to this site. He has been doing it for something like 6
years now. |
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| said by signmeuptoo :It
would be one thing had I bought a good, stable, solid CPU and then gone
and truly abused it by only using stock cooling, over volting a lot,
and packing in a hot closed case. Instead, I ran stock for months and
system was unstable and did BSODs, Crash to reboots, and lockups. I
changed out all my parts one by one and also then increased my CPU
voltage by only 1 step or two, just a tiny bit because I have read it
would help. You constantly complain about how hot it is inside your house. (�Re: sooo hot)
I really don't think that 90+ inside a bedroom is a good temperature
for overclocking. You can have some of the most expensive computer
equipment out there, but that won't do you any good if the ambient
temperature is as high as it is at your place.
My point is that
AMD really gave you a break, taking back a CPU that you overclocked and
probably damaged that way. Did you let them know that you were
overclocking? I'm willing to bet that you didn't. Either way, you got a
lucky break, but you're still overclocking -- I guess we'll see you
again in this forum a few months from now!
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| reply to signmeuptoo
Why
would you overclock your system and most likely recreate the same
problem you had previously. The vast majority of users are fine with
there stock CPUs.
But meh, use and abuse your systems, live off
AMD's shoulders. Plenty of people mooch off of welfare. All's fair in
love and war. |
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He
does have a point. I have noticed quite a few people bash others in
this forum. It's his prerogative if he wants to overclock his CPU.
Where is it your right to judge his decisions? Did somebody die and
make you VP of AMD? Besides, AMD doesn't give a rats ass if he
overclocks it ... it's his property. If you want to start telling
people what to do with THEIR property then I suggest you join the
MPAA/RIAA.
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said by signmeuptoo :Abuse
of a CPU happens from overheating it, and furthermore, CPUs today are
designed to throttle back/shut down, if they overheat. I got NOWHERE
near this, EVER. I agree.
"I now live in the Cumberland
Region of Tennessee, where it is both humid and reaches in excess of
100 many summer days, I have spent two summers with my computer
enduring the heat."
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said by Digital :It's his prerogative if he wants to overclock his CPU. 100% true. But:
said by Digital :Besides, AMD doesn't give a rats ass if he overclocks it ... 100%
untrue. I guarantee you that they would not have approved his RMA if
they knew that the CPU had been overclocked and run in unsafe
temperature in the past.
Let's look at the entire story and the
OP's history for questionable problems before jumping on those of us
who are simply pointing out the obvious. :)
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I
don't overclock when it is hot. If you would like to buy me an AC unit
and send someone out here to rewire the house I am all too willing,
friend.
I am a former Silicon Industry Technologist. I have
worked for Intel and AMD doing research on chip manufacturing
methodology and other stuff I cannot discuss. I used to make the
machine that has literally made the ICs in all of your cell phones and
computers: FACT. I have designed and produced the most advanced optical
system in the industrial world implemented in a printed circuit
production scanner. I used to make the machines that make hard drive
read heads.
I studied semi conductor manufacturing at the nation's leading technologist college.
And
yet you guys try and stir up trouble because, well, you are the same
guys who always do. You think it upsets people, but the truth is it is
just childish waste of bandwidth.
Processors are designed to throttle back if they get hot, and I also have that set in my BIOS and my CPU has NEVER had to do it!
If
any of you had the level of technical understand to chip design and
manufacture that I do, I'd spend more time debating it with you, but
this is just a childish fight started up by guys who spend their time
trolling. Say what you will, go ahead, and thank you for pissing on my
thread.
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said by removed :said by Digital :It's his prerogative if he wants to overclock his CPU. 100% true. But: said by Digital :Besides, AMD doesn't give a rats ass if he overclocks it ... 100%
untrue. I guarantee you that they would not have approved his RMA if
they knew that the CPU had been overclocked and run in unsafe
temperature in the past. Let's look at the entire story and the
OP's history for questionable problems before jumping on those of us
who are simply pointing out the obvious. :) The main question
that you haven't answered yet, and seem to be tip-toeing around is who
stated that you had the authority to tell him what he should do with
his CPU by stating that he has 'Questionable Problems' by 'Pointing out
the Obvious' ... While freedom of speech is one thing and by all means
you are free to state whatever opinion you would like to state on these
boards; However, your freedom of speech seems to be encroaching on his
free will.
Good day, I will no longer feed the troll. |
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January 5th, @10:02PM
| said by Digital :The
main question that you haven't answered yet, and seem to be tip-toeing
around is who stated that you had the authority to tell him what he
should do with his CPU by stating that he has 'Questionable Problems'
by 'Pointing out the Obvious' ... While freedom of speech is one thing
and by all means you are free to state whatever opinion you would like
to state on these boards; However, your freedom of speech seems to be
encroaching on his free will. I think you're making this a bit too
complicated by going on and on about freedom of speech, free will, and
other nonsense that has little to do with the topic at hand. It's a
simple fact that the OP's temperatures in his home are not on par with
what is required for a stable overclock. Chances are he did a
significant amount of damage by running his CPU in a case that has
inferior cooling, inside a room that is way too hot. The fact that he
overclocked the processor only adds to the growing list of problems.
I
really don't understand where you're coming from when you discuss and
attempt to discredit my "authority" on anything. If you want to
consider it that way, nobody here has any "authority" to do anything
other than agree wholeheartedly with the OP and wish him the best.
Where's the fun in that? :uhh:
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said by signmeuptoo :I
don't overclock when it is hot. If you would like to buy me an AC unit
and send someone out here to rewire the house I am all too willing,
friend. I thought you got a member of the site to send you one? I
could be wrong, its hard to keep up anymore, all the freebies and all.
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| reply to chmod
said by chmod :said by signmeuptoo :Abuse
of a CPU happens from overheating it, and furthermore, CPUs today are
designed to throttle back/shut down, if they overheat. I got NOWHERE
near this, EVER. I agree. "I now live in the Cumberland
Region of Tennessee, where it is both humid and reaches in excess of
100 many summer days, I have spent two summers with my computer
enduring the heat." chmod: I am surprised with you, chmod!
You profess to be knowledgeable about computers yet use a sarcastic
reference to my living conditions to imply I abuse my products. Please
show me where this is information from AMD that says using a computer
in a 100 degree room is illegal, especially when I have a 1/2 dozen
fans running, a Panaflo 120x35mm top end $30 fan, a thermalright XP-120
that has been lapped to a mirror polish, and Coollabs liquid metal...
Not
only that, but my case side was kept removed, a huge window fan was
blowing air near the case, and I had 3 large fans suspended by strings
blowing into the case.
The truth is that if you did have real
knowledge on processors, you wouldn't harass me, you wouldn't want to
look as silly as you are looking about this. The fact is still that you
and removed harass people for fun, you aren't doing this because you
believe what you are saying. In fact, you have NEVER criticized anyone
else for overclocking and you visit the hardware AND overclocking
forums. In fact, I am pretty certain that you might overclock yourself,
and I am not certain of this, but I seem to recall you telling people
to NOT use aftermarket cooling, which I do, which is poor advice. I am
not certain of that, but I seem to recall it.
You guys are no
one to talk, and you don't have my professional experience with the
semiconductor industry anyways. What you do have going for yourself is
your reputations for being trouble makers.
I started this thread
to praise AMD and you all came in and as usual, derailed a happy
review. This is indeed your contribution to society? It is sad when a
nice guy comes it to praise a company for doing the right thing and
some trollish types come in and derail things. And it is too bad that
you guys manage to stay under the radar of the rules, but I know for a
fact that you guys do annoy the heck out of not just the members here
at DSLR for your efforts to create a hostile environment, but what an
annoyance you all are to the mods, I know this for a fact.
If a
pal such as one of the member in the overclocking forum had a mature
and wise opinion to offer, I would discuss it intelligently, but you
guys don't know what you are talking about, you are only doing this to
stir up the usual trouble. You think it upsets people so that is why
you do it, because it gives you a cheap thrill, which is pretty
disturbed I guess.
DSLR thanks you, I am sure, for your so
meaningful contribution! At least *I* help people with computer issues.
*I* fix people's computers here in TN for free, and also was a
volunteer in NY State fixing computer, advising people, and
refurbishing systems to sell for charity. What do you guys do? Troll?
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Nope,
wrong again, my good man. My roomate is a severe stroke victim and this
was done to save his life, not to make me feel better. The AC unit, and
by the way it only lowers temps about 2 or 3 degrees sadly, for some
reason, went into his room because I don't want him to die.
Once
again your trolling sarcasm is disgustingly out of place. Freebies?
Let's set the matter straight. You and I am members of the folding
forum and I am very surprised with you, you are supposed to be
supportive of our efforts over there. When my father in law died after
I sold my prize possessions to try and save his life, and went without
food too, I mentioned and asked for prayers in our folding community.
Then my computer, adding insult to injury, blew up due to Antec's
crappy power supplies (I was saving money to get something better).
Well,
some people contacted me separately by IM and told me that they had
hardware they didn't need and weren't using and would feel it might be
put to good use if it got me online again. This helped me stay in
contact with my bereaved wife and child and family and made it possible
for me to help her during a very dangerous and suicidal time in her
life. All because some unused computer hardware got put to use.
As far as the AC unit, I paid all the shipping on it because I was worried for the safety of my best pal and roomate.
So once again you are showing your true colors derailing a thread and doing so in a very inappropriate way.
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Wait
a minute...you're strapped for cash, and yet you can afford all this
"top end" cooling equipment for your PC? This entire time you're
worried about your room-mate dieing so you put in a sub-par AC unit
just for his room? Sigh.
I think I will step up on the high horse your on and kick you off...
While
I am not the most intelligent person here, I am far from the dumbest.
You put on a facade of being an intellectual with all these
achievements to your name and yet, you utter some of the most
ridiculous comments.
Have you ever been called a delta-bravo?
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will leave your words to speak for themselves, I don't know who you are
to judge me, but clearly you don't think I should have decent things. I
suppose in your elitest mind, poor people should have nothing.
I
DON'T have a top end system, silly, in fact, for from it, and it took 3
whole years and I was given stuff from family for birthdays and
christmas.
Who do you think you are calling me a so called
"intellectual". What the heck does making the world's most complex
industrial optical system have to do with being an so called
intellectual? Intellectuals are defined by an elitest geopolitical
mentality, intellectualism is entirely different. In fact, I was put
out on the street at the age of 14 and many years later got my high
school diploma after having NO high school education, from my
determination and self study.
I then went on to be a starving
college student where I volunteeres as a student ambassador, served in
student government, was an RA, and a counselor. Oh yes, right, I am an
intellectual. Hmm...
So you are disgusted with me? Hah hah, you are a pal of removed and you sit in judgement with me? That speaks for itself.
Once
again, you guys dig yourselves in deeper and deeper, and continue to
take a good thread out of control, as you ALWAYS do. You are all
incapable of real contribution.
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January 5th, @11:02PM
| reply to removed
said by removed :said by signmeuptoo :It
would be one thing had I bought a good, stable, solid CPU and then gone
and truly abused it by only using stock cooling, over volting a lot,
and packing in a hot closed case. Instead, I ran stock for months and
system was unstable and did BSODs, Crash to reboots, and lockups. I
changed out all my parts one by one and also then increased my CPU
voltage by only 1 step or two, just a tiny bit because I have read it
would help. You constantly complain about how hot it is inside your house. (� Re: sooo hot)
I really don't think that 90+ inside a bedroom is a good temperature
for overclocking. You can have some of the most expensive computer
equipment out there, but that won't do you any good if the ambient
temperature is as high as it is at your place.
my OC =FSB at 420FSB (840 DDR)(YES Nforce 4 can go that fast)
The Real way to burn it in
is to unpulg the water cooling or cooler then let it go to 210F (99C)
About �Re: [Benchmark] Playing with the FSB -------------------OH MY |
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| reply to signmeuptoo
When
did I say you had a top end system? If you read carefully, as anyone
with your obvious schooling would do, you'd note that I mentioned your
"top end" cooling equipment, i.e. that $30 fan, that mirror finish
Thermaltake heat-sink.
If you cared to look before making an ass
of yourself, you'd notice that I rarely post here on DSLR anymore. That
being said, your statement is erroneous.
I'd also like to add
that yes, I do not feel you deserve nice computer parts, because you'll
merely push them to their breaking point, and then send them back to
the manufacturer asking for a new one. |
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have never pushed to the breaking point. I had a 5% overclock. Yes, now
I have, for the first time, a 25% clock and YOU show me where that is a
breaking point. You don't know what you are talking about.
Ok,
you trolls can have your way derailing another of my threads. I have
NEVER been able to post a thread in this forum without you guys doing
this, I don't know where moderators are right now, but this is indeed a
shame.
You are great guys, yes indeed.
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said by signmeuptoo :You are great guys, yes indeed. You're welcome, Betsy.
PS,
If you are going to start a thread with "Without telling the long story", try to not make it 15 paragraphs long. |
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said by signmeuptoo :I don't know where moderators are right now, but this is indeed a shame. No
offense, but as a moderator I don't necessarily read every thread and
every post. I don't have the time. I read most, but not all. And
long-winded posts are less likely to get read.
However, rather
than asking in a thread that you suspect isn't getting read where the
moderators are (which is against site policy anyway) why not try using
the "hey mods" button on the offending and trolling posts? |
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| reply to signmeuptoo
I'll
correct my statement. You push components to their breaking faster than
normal, rated operation would. All components, at one point or another,
will break, it's merely a matter of when.
FACT: While I do not
know all the intricacies of processor design and breaking points, I do
know that components are supposed to be run at their rated operational
speeds for a reason.
As for being great, well, I try.
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| Well,
my friend, actually: They BIN processors. The ones that bin faster are
set to be sold for higher speeds. Therefore, a 2.4 GHz processor can be
used at 2.6 because its brothers from the same wafer were sold for that. |
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| reply to signmeuptoo
Good read.
�www.overclockers.com/articles753/ |
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| reply to signmeuptoo
Hence
why my 5000+ AMD black edition hit 6400+ speeds with just a
multiplier/ram divisor change. It actually runs cooler than a 6400+
would at the stock 5000+ voltage. That's on a by far from 'expensive'
heatsink, so quit honestly even in a 90�F room I don't see the
temperatures going that wild since his core has less wattage output
than my 5000+.
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| reply to chmod
My
VCores are about 55 while being pushed like crazy during this testing
with Orthos and having Folding and BOINC running also. That is HARDLY
hot!!! |
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| said by signmeuptoo :My
VCores are about 55 while being pushed like crazy during this testing
with Orthos and having Folding and BOINC running also. That is HARDLY
hot!!! Agreed. I'm sitting at 48°C with Apophysis, DNETC,
and various other CPU tasks going right now. Again, on a shitastic CPU
cooler. |
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| reply to signmeuptoo
You would argue with a brick wall wouldn't you?
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said by signmeuptoo :I used to help design chip related manufacture in a special capacity, and you say I am arguing with a brick wall? Yes.
You're arguing that just because you used to work for AMD and Intel
designing "chip manufacture in a special capacity" that you're entitled
to run components beyond their rated capacity, then when they tank,
return them for a free replacement, and that it's acceptable to do this.
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prove it. I believe I said about 10x in this post that it's his
prerogative to overclock HIS CPU and RMA it if he so chooses. That
should be on his personal conciseness NOT on yours.
I guess I
like how people here are such the moral police, yet when it comes to
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| said by Digital :That should be on his personal conciseness NOT on yours. That's
the point. He doesn't see that it's wrong. Most people understand the
concept that just because something breaks, doesn't mean it's the
manufacturer's fault.
Just for future reference though, this
isn't on my personal conscience, because I know that if I break a piece
of equipment due to running it out of specifications, it's my fault,
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because you said it 10 times doesn't make it right, and if the majority
don't agree with you doesn't mean the site is going downhill. It just
means they don't agree with you. While I can understand how
you can infer that because people don't agree with me I feel the site
is going downhill - it's far from that; However, that's beyond the
realm of this post. |
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Ok, I am going to say this one more time:
The
darned CPU was defective LONG before ANY overclocking was done. In
fact, overclocking was done to see how it correlated to be an indicator
of the flakiness of the chip.
Once again, running a chip at 2.55
GHz that is FABbed to work at AT LEAST 2.6 GHz, and binned just to be
sold at 2.4 GHz is absolutely NO issue. They are from the same wafer.
What
did I do in the semi con industry? That is for me to know and you to
wonder, but it was cool and fun and very hard work. I got to do stuff
that most technicians only dream of in their wildest dreams, I was VERY
fortunate. Perhaps when my health improves a day shall return that I
get to contribute more, once again.
It is a shame that you guys
punish me for doing this. Why aren't all of you flaming the members of
the overclocking forum? Where have you been until now? This is
silliness and like I say, you ONLY WANT TO DERAIL the thread because it
is MY thread, otherwise nothing would have been said here, it never has
been before!
Sarcasm and personal attacks and personal questions and insinuations are a form of harassment and of trolling.
I
am the legal owner of the processor and running a pathetic little 5%
clock is minor, so pathetically minor and weak that criticizing anyone
for doing it is absolutely a silly and kind of dumb.
Now I have
a good CPU which is not crashing at all. I tested in before I clocked
it to be stable at stock. I am still not trying to push to the limits.
Yes, for the first time ever in my life I am really overclocking this
time, and the fact remains that the CPU isn't making a peep. And I am
NOT about to test it to it's limits. I intend to keep it at the speed
it is at right now and when it gets warm I will drop the clock
significantly, and on the really hot days it will run stock and/or
below.
If you want to talk about CPU abuse, then go abuse all of
the members of Teams RC5, Starfire, Helix, and Discovery. Go ahead and
dare to call them "bad and immoral" for running their CPUs 24/7 at 100%
all cores! Go ahead and jump their cases for overclocking. They are
such bad people, aren't they, for trying to contribute computer cycles.
After all, they are abusing the world's rights, aren't they? Well, I am
one of those dirty rotten scoundrels! I am proud of it, too!
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you want to talk about CPU abuse, then go abuse all of the members of
Teams RC5, Starfire, Helix, and Discovery. Go ahead and dare to call
them "bad and immoral" for running their CPUs 24/7 at 100% all cores!
Go ahead and jump their cases for overclocking. They are such bad
people, aren't they, for trying to contribute computer cycles. Speak
for yourself. While I don't mess with the Helix or BOINC nonsense, I
have at least 10 machines currently crunching RC5-72, none of which are
operated outside their rated capacity. Personally, I've no problem with
running your CPUs at 100% -- hell, I don't even mind it when people
start overclocking. What burns my toast, however, is when someone
abuses their CPU for several months -- often in extremely high ambient
temperature with questionable hardware -- and then has the testicles to
send the CPU back to AMD for replacement once it goes bad.
It's
disappointing to me that the part of the money I spend with AMD goes
not to research into making better products, but to cover shipping and
administrative costs for your dishonest RMA claim.
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I
do not care that you're over-clocking. I do not care that anyone
over-clocks. I do not care that members of the distributed computing
teams here on DSLR are running their components full blast 24/7. It's
all moot, because you're failing to see the true nature of your wrong
doing.
Much like removed ,
it aggravates me that you had the gall to get a replacement after
over-clocking. The fact that the processor was supposedly defective
before the over-clock is irrelevant. Had you went to AMD when the
problem first occurred, and got a replacement, there would be no issue
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EDIT: I can only avoid being sarcastic myself for just so long.
Ok sport. You have had your say, I am evil.
Me and a few million other guys.
Furthermore,
2.55 GHz, once again, is NOT a true overclock. Processors from the same
wafer were sold as 2.6 GHz units, seriously, dude, just give it up.
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Nope, it would take an electron etch, a doping, a photolith, and an ESM, but you're close!
But
seriously, it takes a villiage. Many women and men working together,
tens of thousands actually, are because we have the technology. My
efforts were just a small contribution. But that doesn't mean I
shouldn't feel at least a small amount of pride, especially for some of
my discoveries. I solved mistakes that Stanford Scientists made and
fixed their errors. No, I am no better than anyone else, but I do work
hard and have a good work ethic.
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said by chmod :With your vast knowledge you could have probley fixed that borked cpu with a snorkel, cantaloupe, and a ball point pen. Fucking MacGyver Style and shit.
It doesn't matter if you feel it's a true over-clock. You're running the chip faster than what it was advertised to run at.
Just
because a few million other guys do it, it's acceptable. I take it
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said by C_ :and amd shareholders wonder why their company is crap :uhh: That
is really news to me!!! AMD is an exceptional company. They have just
now produced the world's best motherboard chipset on their FIRST TRY!!!
They have introduced the world's FIRST truly good enthusiasts
overclocker tuning-in-Windows environment!!! They are producing some of
the best priced gaming video card solutions. They might be behind Intel
in top performance with their current CPU, but they aren't so far
behind really, and they are managing all this on a budget that is
miniscule compared to Intel.
AMD is awesome. Those of you who keep whining about the sky falling and AMD sucking are so off base it isn't funny.
If
AMD is bad for this, so is BFG, EVGA, PCP&C, OCZ, TEAM Group, and
many other companies that have enthusiast friendly warranty policies.
After all, enthusiasts are the ones who are spending the big bucks on
their top products, and keep them in business.
No, AMD is
brilliant. Not only has Intel now approved overclocking (look at its
new chipsets) but also AMD. They know who pays their bills.
Your statement is very silly. Perhaps you might realize this in the future.
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said by IhatemyISP :said by chmod :With your vast knowledge you could have probley fixed that borked cpu with a snorkel, cantaloupe, and a ball point pen. Fucking MacGyver Style and shit. It doesn't matter if you feel it's a true over-clock. You're running the chip faster than what it was advertised to run at. Just
because a few million other guys do it, it's acceptable. I take it
you've never been asked the bridge question by your mother or father? I
take it you are out and out telling AMD and Intel themselves that they
have no right to market to overclockers? AMD and Intel both now sell
motherboards with chipsets and processors fully intended to be
overclocked. They encourage it. And yet, you criticize them!
Perhaps
you criticize rock climbers, sky divers, artists, and everyone else
that pushes the limits in life. Perhaps a guy shouldn't put performance
spark plugs in his Honda because Honda doesn't approve and market them?
Get real my friend. Chose a real battle.
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because a few million other guys do it, it's acceptable. I take it
you've never been asked the bridge question by your mother or father? I
take it you are out and out telling AMD and Intel themselves that they
have no right to market to overclockers? AMD and Intel both now sell
motherboards with chipsets and processors fully intended to be
overclocked. They encourage it. And yet, you criticize them! Perhaps
you criticize rock climbers, sky divers, artists, and everyone else
that pushes the limits in life. Perhaps a guy shouldn't put performance
spark plugs in his Honda because Honda doesn't approve and market them? Get real my friend. Chose a real battle. Again
diverting the topic away from rma'ing a cpu you messed up with babble
about intel vs amd fanbody shit and overclocking. I've had my current
cpu overclocked since day1 after killing my last one (psst.. my
replacement isn't an rma).
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You have taken this thread to a new low. Comparing over-clocking to pushing the limits of life.
If
the guy destroys his Honda's engine, and the spark plugs were the
cause, do you really think Honda is going to just give him a new car?
Hell no they aren't. Why should AMD or Intel, or hell, any other
company do the opposite?
I am not your friend. Stop acting all high and mighty. |
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said by signmeuptoo :said by C_ :and amd shareholders wonder why their company is crap :uhh: That
is really news to me!!! AMD is an exceptional company. They have just
now produced the world's best motherboard chipset on their FIRST TRY!!!
They have introduced the world's FIRST truly good enthusiasts
overclocker tuning-in-Windows environment!!! They are producing some of
the best priced gaming video card solutions. They might be behind Intel
in top performance with their current CPU, but they aren't so far
behind really, and they are managing all this on a budget that is
miniscule compared to Intel. AMD is awesome. Those of you who keep whining about the sky falling and AMD sucking are so off base it isn't funny. If
AMD is bad for this, so is BFG, EVGA, PCP&C, OCZ, TEAM Group, and
many other companies that have enthusiast friendly warranty policies.
After all, enthusiasts are the ones who are spending the big bucks on
their top products, and keep them in business. No, AMD is
brilliant. Not only has Intel now approved overclocking (look at its
new chipsets) but also AMD. They know who pays their bills. Your statement is very silly. Perhaps you might realize this in the future. so
great that they have negative earnings, had to sell a substantial stake
to a sovereign wealth fund since they aren't making any profit. within
4 years amd will be bankrupt or bought out. they don't have the people
or business plan to survive on their own :uhh: but you keep living with
your little pipe dream that its an exceptional company while the
shareholders like thender are getting taken to the cleaners. and the fact they are worth less now then what they paid for ati doesn't help either.
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High
and mighty? Look who is insulting here. You are the one who is judgeing
and being high and mighty. I am just a regular guy.
And you guys
and your foul language! It is one thing that you all use personal
attacks, inuendo about a guy's personal life, personal insults, and
play games and harass, but then you curse like sailors.
You are effectively creating a hostile work environment, yet you call me bad! Sure, right!
I
could care less what you say. The CPU was defective from the beginning.
chmod, what if I said I don't believe you and that there is more to the
story. You criticize me for overclocking but YOU do it? Gooood!
So
I messed up the CPU? How did I do that, please tell me. Why don't you
try practicing on how to read, then you might read that the CPU was
defective from day one and didn't overclock for about 6 months.
You guys are just plain, well, disturbed, I guess. I hate to say that, but I just don't know what else to call it.
Like
I say, non of you are kidding anyone. If any other member that you
don't harass posted this thread, you'd have been silent. If Justin
himself made my statements you'd be too scared to say these same
outragious and innacurate and foolish accusations.
I have done
NOTHING wrong, you guys are the ONLY ones doing wrong here. In fact, we
should review your behavior in this thread. Cursing. Attacks. Bringing
up personal information. Defamation of a Corporation...
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The
stock market is run and is used by idiots. Because of the language of
people like you investors without brains or proper understanding of
technology, are freaking out. It is all artificial and superficial. I
have seen many great companies fail because of people like you who
caused panic on unfounded reasoning.
The bottom line is that
most people who have money and invest are about as intelligent as the
people I know who can't figure out how to fix Windows, or install their
own hard drive. And they are the ones making the decisions.
Say what you will, and I'll still laugh if it is silly.
If AMD gets bought out it will be because they are a great investment with excellent potential.
Until Intel came out with the Core 2, AMD was the world's darling. Get real, friend.
Note: I call people friend because I have manners. You might try it someday, guys!
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said by signmeuptoo :Because of the language of people like you investors without brains or proper understanding of technology, are freaking out. Are
you sure? I owned AMD stock for a while and dropped it because the
company was doing worse and worse every time quarterly reports came out.
Don't believe me because I'm an idiot and whatnot? OK:
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Look at the share prices over the last few years. Absolute garbage.
The facts are in the numbers, Bucky. Let's admit it -- you don't know what's going on with the company...
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said by signmeuptoo :Note: I call people friend because I have manners. You might try it someday, guys! Or perhaps its because your retarded? Remember that post on another site? Think hard little jimmy.
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said by signmeuptoo :High
and mighty? Look who is insulting here. You are the one who is judgeing
and being high and mighty. I am just a regular guy. And you guys
and your foul language! It is one thing that you all use personal
attacks, inuendo about a guy's personal life, personal insults, and
play games and harass, but then you curse like sailors. You are effectively creating a hostile work environment, yet you call me bad! Sure, right! I
could care less what you say. The CPU was defective from the beginning.
chmod, what if I said I don't believe you and that there is more to the
story. You criticize me for overclocking but YOU do it? Gooood! So
I messed up the CPU? How did I do that, please tell me. Why don't you
try practicing on how to read, then you might read that the CPU was
defective from day one and didn't overclock for about 6 months. You guys are just plain, well, disturbed, I guess. I hate to say that, but I just don't know what else to call it. Like
I say, non of you are kidding anyone. If any other member that you
don't harass posted this thread, you'd have been silent. If Justin
himself made my statements you'd be too scared to say these same
outragious and innacurate and foolish accusations. I have done
NOTHING wrong, you guys are the ONLY ones doing wrong here. In fact, we
should review your behavior in this thread. Cursing. Attacks. Bringing
up personal information. Defamation of a Corporation... Sunuvabitch
man. Get this through your thick head. You over-clocked the processor,
defective or not, and then asked for a free replacement. That is where
you are in the wrong. Period.
Justin would have never made your
statements, because he is not a buffoon. I'm well aware that he has the
common sense to comprehend that if he were to further damage a
processor, it would not be the manufacturer's fault.
You know, for a man of your educational background, your spelling is horrific, friend.
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said by removed :said by signmeuptoo :Because of the language of people like you investors without brains or proper understanding of technology, are freaking out. Are
you sure? I owned AMD stock for a while and dropped it because the
company was doing worse and worse every time quarterly reports came out. Don't believe me because I'm an idiot and whatnot? OK: � www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2237571,00.asp� www.news.com/8301-10784_3-983469���tag=head� news.moneycentral.msn.com/provid���=7947220Look at the share prices over the last few years. Absolute garbage. The facts are in the numbers, Bucky. Let's admit it -- you don't know what's going on with the company... Agreed.
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said by removed :said by signmeuptoo :Because of the language of people like you investors without brains or proper understanding of technology, are freaking out. Are
you sure? I owned AMD stock for a while and dropped it because the
company was doing worse and worse every time quarterly reports came out. Don't believe me because I'm an idiot and whatnot? OK: � www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2237571,00.asp� www.news.com/8301-10784_3-983469���tag=head� news.moneycentral.msn.com/provid���=7947220Look at the share prices over the last few years. Absolute garbage. The facts are in the numbers, Bucky. Let's admit it -- you don't know what's going on with the company... and
what happened to all the amd fanbois saying intel had an unfair
advantage because dell only sold intels. dell sells amds now and amd is
worth less then it was before :o oh wait now its apples fault since
they only sell intel, friend
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I
personally know very rich people who are total nimrods. Being rich
doesn't equal being meaningful, it just means power. Look at Bush.
You
can brag if you want to about having money. But if you aren't being
intelligent as a man about things, no amount of money will change
anything.
I have had millionaire bosses who were no better then
some of the kids I helped at Southbury CT Training School, EXCEPT the
kids at the school were all sweet and loveable. I'll take the kids
every time.
The stock market IS run by idiots. And so is the
administration. Both are running our nation into the ground. In fact
those were topics in tonights democratic debate!
Being stupid
but being in power will always mean you can make more and more money.
It's like the iPod. The iPod isn't the top seller because it is the
smartest or best, but because stupidity have made it the most popular
by populists. Life is all about that. Just look at the hottest shows on
TV. Children's pablum.
The only reason AMD is trading low is because of the investor's stupidity and panic. .
If
the investors WERE smart, they would have killed Microsoft's value to
rock bottom for putting out a crap OS and then desperately trying to
force it down the world's throats. But instead they panic about a
company they don't even understand. How many of those investors even
understand what deep UV immersion lithography is?
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can't come up with an argument so call them idiots, thats classic, friend....
and the stock market isn't run by a small group of Illuminati , take your tinfoil hat conspiracy theories to moveon.org
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I don't feel that I lost any "argument". Investors ARE stupid. They ARE running this nation into the ground.
Example:
Young
Henry Ford has, for the last few years, been DESPERATELY trying to turn
Ford around. He has been begging the executives AND investors to see
the vision of making mostly energy efficient vehicles AND **leading**
the way with new technologies. But every time he makes a move to do
things for the long term, for the future, stock prices fall and the
executives jump his butt.
Investors are idiots. They have singlehandedly killed off at least 1/2 of the good jobs in America.
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said by chmod :said by IhatemyISP :Woowee... I see you realize that you've lost this arguement, and have moved to changing the subject. Nice personal attacks on the current administration and those that run the stock market. Let me know when you'd like off your horse, and I'll left the cherry picker, Friend. Bring the crane, hes way up there, friend. I dunno, I might have to break out the ole AS350, friend. |
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actually
the reason ford is being run into the ground is the unions but blaming
them doesn't fit into your stalinist agenda so you have to find a
scapegoat, can't wait till the unions drive ford into bankrupty or into
the hands of a new japanese overlord, friend
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I may be up a tree, but YOU are the one with foul language and insults. Kettle... Black... Anyone?
What
saddens me is that you are almost NEVER nice to anyone. That is a
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said by signmeuptoo :Young Henry Ford has, for the last few years, been DESPERATELY trying to turn Ford around. Who? There is no Henry Ford in management at Ford Motor Company at the moment. As usual, you have it all wrong... it's Bill Ford. :uhh: |
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said by signmeuptoo :I don't feel that I lost any "argument". You lost the argument the minute you made this thread. The bottom line is this -
You ran a piece of crap beyond the piece of alu-mi-nium's rated speed of selection comfortabililility.
However,
due to AMD's generous Jesus-esque attitude they offered you up a new
proccessor like those 300 virgins a suicide bomber gets.
You did not diserve said allotment of virgini because you clearly 'broke' the rules of engagement.
You loose. Im sorry. |
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due to AMD's generous Jesus-esque attitude they offered you up a new
proccessor like those 300 virgins a suicide bomber gets. You did not diserve said allotment of virgini because you clearly 'broke' the rules of engagement. You loose. Im sorry. i must say its only 6 days into 2008 but i must nominate this for post of the year, friend
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| said by C_ :said by Mchart :said by signmeuptoo :I don't feel that I lost any "argument". You lost the argument the minute you made this thread. The bottom line is this - You ran a piece of crap beyond the piece of alu-mi-nium's rated speed of selection comfortabililility. However,
due to AMD's generous Jesus-esque attitude they offered you up a new
proccessor like those 300 virgins a suicide bomber gets. You did not diserve said allotment of virgini because you clearly 'broke' the rules of engagement. You loose. Im sorry. i must say its only 6 days into 2008 but i must nominate this for post of the year, friend I'll second that, friend. |
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Hold
on, I thought you were too poor to afford general living things let
alone a computer? You DO realize you can have the best cooling in the
world and it doesn't do jack shit when it is 100+ degrees in the room
right? I would think with all the free time you have you could look up
the basics of thermal cooling for arguments on the dslr.
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That's
right, BLAME the unions. It is so evil for workers to have rights!
Geeze, that is 1980's Reaganism, guy! Blaming the unions went out 20
years ago.
While I agree that the unions ARE ***part*** of the
problem, the main problem is the investment community. The unions just
won't budge on health care. but that is because we live in THE ONLY
developed nation that won't provide decent health care nationally.
Granted,
this all is MUCH more complex than any of us here could EVER hope to
deal with or understand. But the truth remains that most American
investors are total fools, and many a truly good business failed
because of it.
And if it is a cheap shot me bringing up what
Bush is doing to our nation, then what *isn't* a cheap shot? Please
tell me what the rules are here? Seems you are making them as you go
along.
I'll say it again. Even AMD doesn't say I did anything
wrong, and I asked. Part of what I said was that I tried to see if
processor speed increased the fequency of the failures proportionately,
and indeed it did, and the guy thought I was smart to try that, in fact!
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said by signmeuptoo :I may be up a tree, but YOU are the one with foul language and insults. Kettle... Black... Anyone? What
saddens me is that you are almost NEVER nice to anyone. That is a
shame, I hope the people who work with you don't suffer like I do. I'm
sorry I should try harder to be a christian man like yourself. But then
again a christian man wouldnt be an internet peddler for free goods. I
guess it evens out, no?
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said by twizlar :Hold
on, I thought you were too poor to afford general living things let
along a computer? You DO realize you can have the best cooling in the
world and it doesn't do jack shit when it is 100+ degrees in the room
right? I would think with all the free time you have you could look up
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Oh
so you purposefully broke the processor to see if it would break?
Smart. Oh and dont you dare drag Reagan into this. He is a hero.
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said by IhatemyISP :said by twizlar :Hold
on, I thought you were too poor to afford general living things let
along a computer? You DO realize you can have the best cooling in the
world and it doesn't do jack shit when it is 100+ degrees in the room
right? I would think with all the free time you have you could look up
the basics of thermal cooling for arguments on the dslr. He has no free time. He works full time here at DSLR and we're making his work environment hostile, friend. His WORK enviroment? We working men pay for his bills and toys.
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said by signmeuptoo :said by twizlar :Oh so you purposefully broke the processor to see if it would break? Smart. You don't read, either, do you? And you do, friend?
Kettle... Black... Anyone? |
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That
is wrong. I was a tax payer before you were born I am willing to bet. I
have also done volunteer work much of my life. But go ahead with your
continued insults and attacks. Other Helix members ARE watching. |
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is wrong. I was a tax payer before you were born I am willing to bet. I
have also done volunteer work much of my life. But go ahead with your
continued insults and attacks. Other Helix members ARE watching. Tinhat, friend.
Too bad all that volunteer work was done by a common thief. |
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And they are.. the gestapo police of the forums? Come on now.
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